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Runes have been the subject of a lot of research, some focusing on their influence upon the history of religion and society. Some of the work also examines their influence upon socialism and even upon modern government. Those worries have relevance to the enormous size and scope of government in the USA and its growing police state.

Runes are a form of ancient alphabet, representing letters. Many runes have been found in Germany. Researchers believe that the symbols were related to religious beliefs in ancient Germany.

One of the most notorious runes is the rune that resembles and corresponds to the letter "S" in ancient Germany.

A lot of research on runes occurred before the amazing recent discovery by the famed runologist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets"), showing that when German socialists performed the straight-arm salute to their swastika flag, they were saluting alphabetic "S" symbolism for "socialism." The swastika, although an ancient symbol, was used sometimes by German National Socialists to represent "S" letters for their "socialism." 

Hitler altered the flag after his first description of the flag the flag in Mein Kampf (written in 1923 and was published as both volumes in 1925-26). The early German National Socialist Standards had the swastika flat on one side and even pointing in either direction. It was not until 1935 that the current concept of the swastika flag became the official flag of Germany. Many years passed between the vague Mein Kampf comment and the data given in the German Flaggenbuch 1939 and in the VO of 30 December 1933. Everyone who has commented on the design of the flag, completely missed this discovery until Dr. Rex Curry's work.

Many people do not know that German socialists did not call their rune-style symbol a swastika. It was called a Hakenkreuz.

Most people do not know that a cross was worshiped as the notorious symbol of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Hakenkreuz means "hooked cross." It is one of the biggest cover-ups in history.  The hooked cross became a symbol of Christian Socialism.

With a 45 degree turn of his symbol, and by pointing new uses clockwise, the leader of German National Socialists highlighted the "S" shapes to combine the cross with collectivism, merge church and state, mesh religion and socialism, and mandate the worship of government. He altered his own signature to use the same symbolism and similar alphabetic symbolism still shows on Volkswagens.

The noted symbologist Dr. Curry had previously shown that the straight-arm salute originated in the USA where it had been the early salute to the USA's flag in the Pledge of Allegiance, that had originally been created by the self-proclaimed national socialist Francis Bellamy, cousin and cohort to the also-famous Edward Bellamy, another national socialist in the USA and known worldwide.

People were persecuted for refusing to give the straight-arm salute to the national flag. That persecution occurred in the USA (to the stars and stripes) and in Germany (to the swastika flag) at the same time, although it started in the USA first. Today, most people in the USA were educated in government schools (socialist schools), so they are ignorant of the fact that it was happening in both Germany and the USA.

It was part of the dogma that led to the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): 65 million dead under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 49 million dead under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21 million dead under the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Children of various races and backgrounds attended government schools that were segregated by law and they were forced to perform the straight-arm salute in robotic chanting every morning at the ring of a government bell (just as it is done today but with a different gesture).

Many people considered the raised-arm salute to the national flag to be sacrilegious worship of government and socialism. Religious people had good reasons to consider the pledge / salute to be sacrilegious, in that Germans used the ritual toward their Hakenkreuz flag, the hooked-cross flag.

Guido Karl Anton List, better known as Guido von List (1848 - 1919) is well-known in runology due to his authorship of "Secret of the Runes." Some people consider him a völkisch author and an important figure in runic revivalism in the late 19th, early 20th Century.

List was strongly influenced by occult socialism in the Theosophical thought of Madame Blavatsky, as were the Bellamys.

List is additional proof that socialists in the United States were the source of the swastika as S-symbolism for "socialism."

List claimed that the dominance of the Roman Catholic Church in Austria-Hungary constituted a continuing occupation of the Germany by the Roman empire, albeit now in a religious form, and a continuing persecution of the occupied territory. List also touted renunciation of Roman Catholicism and perhaps Christianity in general, explaining that it was a religion with roots in Judaism. Among his ideological followers was Lanz von Liebenfels. List's beliefs also influenced Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS in under the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

In the German language, the title of List's book is "Das Geheimnis der Runen" and an illustration from his work shows a swastika symbol that is very different from the symbol used as the symbol of German socialism. It is more evidence in support of Dr. Curry's work and it illustrates how the leader of the National Socialist German Workers' Party deliberately altered the rune to highlight the "S" letters for "socialism."

The swastika-rune style symbol of the Thule Society also supports Dr. Curry's work.

The Thule Society (German: Thule-Gesellschaft) was originally the Studiengruppe für germanisches Altertum 'Study Group for Germanic Antiquity.' The Thule Society was founded August 17, 1918 by Rudolf von Sebottendorff, as the Munich branch of the Germanenorden, a secret society a.k.a. the "Order of Teutons" (1912). Von Sebottendorff later claimed that the Germanenorden pressed him to emphasize political and nationalist socialist angles. The leader of German National Socialism was never a member of the Thule Society. An illustration of the swastika symbol used by the group shows a symbol that is different from the symbol used as the symbol of German socialism. It is more evidence in support of Dr. Curry's work and it illustrates how the leader of the National Socialist German Workers' Party altered the rune symbol to highlight "S" letters for "socialism."

Under German Socialism, the evolution of the swastika rune occurred thusly: First, the overlapping sig runes of the Hakenkruez (swastika) served as the initial symbol used by the National Socialists; Second, the stylized SA symbol was formed for the Sturmabteilung (SA) Stormtroopers to resemble the Hakenkreuz; Third, the organization for youth socialists took from the hakenkreuz its solitary sig runes; Forth, the SS (Schutzstaffel) symbol that separated the intertwined sig runes of the hakenkreuz and rearranged it as side-by-side sig runes.

On January 6, 1929 the leader of the National Socialist German Workers' Party appointed Heinrich Himmler as the leader of the SS. Himmler is quoted as having said that the two "SS-Siegrunen" stood aptly for the name of the Schutzstaffel because they represented success and victory in Nordic mythology. The Swastika represented their "unshakeable" faith in the ultimate victory of their socialist philosophy.

In 1932 SS man Walter Heck an employee of the badge manufacturer firm of Ferdinand Hoffstatter drew two sig-runes side by side and the rest, so to speak, is history.  The SS symbol developed after the swastika, as an evolution of the swastika.  Heck saw the swastika a two “S” shapes which he rearranged for the special use of a division of the party.

The word "rune" is probably related to the word "round" etymologically.


Helena Blavatsky (1831-1891), with her "Theosophic Society," is considered the mother of New Age Socialism and modern occult socialism. Alice Bailey (1880-1949, née Alice LaTrobe Bateman) left Blavatsky's group and founded her own "Arcane School," wherein the term "New Age" itself originated. In 1922, Bailey founded the "Lucifer Publishing Company" to publish her and Blavatsky's writings and also published a magazine entitle "Lucifer," wherein Edward Bellamy's dogma was praised. That organization continues to this day under the name “Lucis Trust”  It is a current UN-accredited NGO (in “consultative status” with the United Nation's Economic and Social Council), and an officially acknowledged financial contributor to the United Nations.

Blavatsky’s ideas played an important role in the various pre-Nazi Germanic esoteric orders that flourished during the immediate decades leading up to the rise of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. From 1880-1920, many Germanic-based occult and chivalric societies were started, including the German Theosophical Society, the List Society, the Order of the New Templars, the Germanenorden, the Edda and Thule Societies, and many others -all dedicated to building a Germanic occult order (see Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke’s book The Occult Roots of Nazism).

Theosophical writings of Annie Besant, Charles Leadbeater, and Helena Blavatsky, were translated and published in Germany. An 1892 periodical, Lotus Blossoms, featured Blavatsky's writings and "was the first German publication to sport the theosophical swastika upon its cover" (Goodrick-Clarke:25). As time went on numerous other Theosophy-based groups of occult socialism formed in Germany and Austria via Guido von List and Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels and others. Several of these groups would provide the philosophical framework for National Socialism in Germany.

Guido von List (1848-1919) was the first to combine German national socialism with the occult teachings of Theosophy.  List discovered Wotanism as a young teenager. Worship of Wotan, Wodan, or Odin, an ancient German god who is still memorialized in the USA as Wednesday or Wodan's Day.

Two of his closest associates were Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels and Harald Gravelle. Gravelle was a leading Theosophist in Germany.

List became known as a national socialist guru guiding a renaissance of the glorious Aryan past in Germany. (Goodrick-Clarke:33). He was also a self-styled master of occult socialism, claiming to be "the last of the Armanist magicians who had formerly wielded authority in the old Aryan world" (Goodrick-Clarke:33). In 1908 List formed the Guido von List Society in part to promote his Ariosophist research and writings on the Armanen Order. (ibid. :43).

List was fascinated by the Rune alphabet and wrote books on the subject. He was particularly infatuated with Alphabetic S-symbolism of the dual lightning-bolts that would later become the designation for the SS. (J. S. Jones: 125). It also led to the swastika's alphabetic S-symbolism for "socialism" under German National Socialism, as shown in the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets"). 

List is additional proof that socialists in the United States were the source of the swastika as S-symbolism for "socialism."

List's pet words (Ariosophy, Aryan, Armanist) all evoked his occult socialist ideas of an aristocracy of enlightened leaders and List's central goal of a super socialist man, or the superior socialist society.

The dogma of List, Blavatsky, and the Bellamys is similar to that of many other civic, religious, social and fraternal groups in that it suffers ignorance of economics, markets, prices, trade and private property rights. That deficiency in most groups makes group-members easily misled into sick socialism.

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