of the original pledge of allegiance are at http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html
FAN MAIL ! - http://rexcurry.net/pledge_heart.html
More artilces are at
BAN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE?!
At the bottom of this page is a genuine historic photograph of the original pledge of allegiance http://rexcurry.net/nazi%20salute%209b.jpg to the flag of the U.S.A. that was banned in a sale on Ebay. The photograph includes written comments that are anti-racist and anti-Nazi. As explanation for the ban of America's heritage, Ebay cited it's policy against items related to the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis) and the Ebay letter is also below. Here are some questions that are raised by ebay's letter and the answers are not clear from the Ebay letter.
Is Ebay acknowledging that the U.S.'s original pledge of allegiance was the origin of the Nazi salute? (and acknowledging the forgotten history discovered by RexCurry.net)
Does Ebay believe that historic photographs of the original pledge violate laws in countries that ban Nazi depictions? (Selling or displaying Nazi artifacts is illegal in France. Germany is similar. Is the U.S. pledge a Nazi artifact?)
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As the nation's leading authority on the pledge of allegiance, RexCurry.net made the historic discovery that the salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis) originated from the military salute in the USA, and from the original flag pledge (as written by a socialist), and not from ancient Rome.
Here is something unique that someone sent. If it is true then it is remarkable. RexCurry.net opposes all bans on all symbolism and does not endorse such laws in the EU or anywhere.
EU to ban
USA’s pledge of allegiance?
BRUSSELS, Belgium – The recent EU proposal to ban Nazi symbols might include the USA’s pledge of allegiance.
EU Justice and Home Affairs Commissioner Franco Frattini has proposed a Europe-wide ban on display of Nazi symbols. A group of European Union lawmakers called then for a ban on other symbols of oppression, including the red star and the hammer and sickle. Another new proposal bans the USA’s pledge of allegiance to its flag.
“If we decide to ban one, we should decide to ban all of them,” said Jan Zahradil, a Czech member of the EU assembly.
“Most Americans are ignoramuses about their pledge as a Nazi symbol and that it was the origin of the straight-arm salute of the Nazis,” a spokesman said.
He added that the ban would not apply in the USA but only in the EU.
“The ban may not be necessary in that the USA’s pledge is a bizarre ritual that is already shunned by every other country. We don’t want it to happen here,” He said “Or we don’t want it to happen here AGAIN. It already happened once.”
Even in the USA some action was taken against the pledge in 1942, but only the original straight-arm salute was changed.
“Many Europeans know more about the USA’s pledge than does the typical U.S. citizen. That is because U.S. schools teach propaganda and never show historic photographs,” said Tomas Corbisier pointing to a web image search for the “original socialist salute.”
“The only reason the pledge continues in the USA is because the U.S. government hides the truth,” Corbisier added.
The USA’s pledge was created by Francis Bellamy, a self-proclaimed national socialist in the USA and an advocate of “military socialism.” At that time government schools in the U.S. imposed segregation by law and taught racism as official government policy. It happened for three decades in the USA before the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nazis) adopted the salute and similar behavior.
In the past, U.S. schools expelled and jailed people who refused to pledge until the U.S. Supreme Court enjoined the punishments. “But there are many people who disagree with the court decision and there are many laws that require teachers to try to lead a daily robotic chant of the pledge in military formation like Pavlov’s lapdogs of the state,” he added.
FASCISTS BAN NAZI SYMBOLS?
EU socialists-fascists would ban socialist symbols including Nazi symbols.
Modern Hitlers ban Nazi Symbols?
A libertarian website scooped the news again after comparing a ban of the swastika to the USSR's hammer & sickle and China's red star http://rexcurry.net/swastikanews.html (and after distributing internationally the article in the middle). World news reports that a ban of all socialist symbols might be adopted. RexCurry.net opposes any ban of any sybolism and supports repeal of existing bans everywhere. However, the news came two weeks after RexCurry.net stated: "The hammer and sickle symbol has not been banned, although the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics slaughtered 62 million people. The red star has not been banned although socialists in the Peoples’ Republic of China slaughtered 35 million people. They both greatly exceeded the number slaughtered by the National Socialist German Workers’ Party."
BRUSSELS, Belgium --A group of conservative European Union lawmakers from eastern Europe called Thursday for a ban on socialist symbols, including the red star and the hammer and sickle, to match a proposed EU ban on the swastika of the
National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis).
The group from Estonia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Hungary and the Czech Republic said the socialist symbols should be included in any ban because of the suffering caused by regimes backed by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in eastern Europe.
"We would like to have an equal treatment of the other evil totalitarian regimes of the socialist system," said a member of the European Parliament.
EU Justice and Home Affairs Commissioner Franco Frattini has proposed a Europe-wide ban on display of the socialist swastikas and other symbols of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
"If we decide to ban one, we should decide to ban all of them," said Jan Zahradil, a Czech member of the EU assembly.
Frattini's spokesman, Friso Roscam Abbing, said the EU head office was not at this time pushing for a similar ban on socialist symbols.
"He is completely aware of the pain this (socialist rule) has caused," Roscam Abbing said. But including the hammer and sickle alongside the swastika "might not be appropriate" under the rules being negotiated, he said.
"It warrants further political debate," he said.
Justice and interior ministers from the 25 EU nations will discuss the banning of symbols of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis) at a meeting this month. The proposals need agreement from all EU governments.
Former Lithuanian President Vytautas Landsbergis, who led his country out of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, said the hammer and sickle was also a symbol of oppression.
"It was a fake symbol of unity of workers and farmers," he said.
Last week's commemorations marking the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz concentration camp highlighted the growing problem of the National Socialist German Workers' Party dogma in Europe.
Also, pictures showing Britain's Prince Harry wearing a socialist swastika armband at a costume party last month added to EU calls to ban all symbols across Europe of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Members of the European Parliament from Eastern Europe called for a ban on Socialist symbols like the hammer and sickle on Thursday if the European Union decides to outlaw symbols of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis) like the swastika.
Lawmakers from the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Lithuania and Slovakia said any ban should also cover other Socialist symbols, because of killings and torture suffered by people in the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or countries under its domination.
The deputies wrote to the EU justice, freedom and security commissioner, Franco Frattini, to press their demand.
EU justice and interior ministers are to discuss a possible ban on symbols of the National Socialist German Workers' Party in the light of a recent scandal over Prince Harry of Britain wearing a socialist swastika at a costume party, as part of proposed rules across the 25-nation bloc.
Frattini's spokesman said it would not be appropriate to include symbols of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in the ban because some are still used by legal Socialist parties in the West.
The above articles were from 2 / 3 & 4 / 2005
THE EBAY LETTER
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THE MILITARY SALUTE
MADE THE NAZI SALUTE
The pledge of allegiance was the origin of the salute of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nazi Party) because Francis Bellamy was a self-proclaimed national socialist who promoted “military socialism” (a Bellamy term). To promote militarism, Bellamy started the pledge of allegiance with a military salute.
The military salute was held for the phrase “I pledge allegiance” and then the right arm extended straight outward toward the flag for the rest of the chant. Historic photographs are linked at http://rexcurry.net/pledge1.html
The first description of the pledge had the palm of the hand turned upward for the straight-armed gesture. The gesture changed in use, growing into the "Heil Hitler" appearance because of the military salute (palm down) extended casually straight toward the flag.
James Bailey Upham suggested to Bellamy part of the gesture (the straight-arm with the palm upward). Upham’s suggested gesture (palm up) was like saying “Here is the flag.” It was because of Bellamy’s alteration (the addition of the military salute) that the pledge evolved into the Nazi-style.
Upham was also familiar with Bellamy's "military socialism" dogma because Edward Bellamy, cousin and cohort to Francis, had written of it in the international bestseller "Looking Backward" in 1888, and both Bellamys had been openly involved in the national socialism movement and the "Nationalist" magazine.
Edward Bellamy was a bitter West Point failure but he loved Prussian militarism and the educational system. According to Tom Peyser "On his deathbed, he wiled away the hours by arranging tin soldiers along the folds of his coverlet." That would interest all who loathe the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, because Prussia led to the formation of the German empire, and after World War I, Prussia continued to exist as the largest Land (state) within the Weimar Republic and under the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. After World War II it was dissolved by decree of the Allied Control Council in 1947.
Even with the palm turned upward, people would later see the relationship to the National Socialist German Workers' Party and that is why the straight-arm salute was disfavored in 1942, and the hand-over-the-heart was adopted. (On June 22, 1942, the pledge was included in the U.S. Flag Code, but Congress gave it the modern hand-over-the-heart gesture. There is probably one overriding reason why Congress interfered: to make everyone drop the straight-arm salute, which was becoming very embarassing and very revealing. The US had entered WWII on December 7, 1941 against Japan after Pearl Harbor. On December 11, 1941 Germany and Italy declared war on the United States and the U.S. declared war on Germany and Italy.)
It is interesting to note that Upham's father had operated a school in New Hampshire that included Roman and Greek classics and Upham had attended that school. It is not clear how this might have influenced the “Roman salute” myth that eventually arose about the straight-armed salute.
Upham was the head of the premium department of the Youth’s Companion Magazine and was also a junior partner in its firm, the Perry Mason Company of Boston, which was owned by Daniel S. Ford, uncle-by-marriage to Upham.
Ford had supported churches where Francis Bellamy preached socialism. Ford was attracted to socialism and was interested in the Social Gospel which, to his friend Francis Bellamy, meant Christian Socialism. At his death Ford bequeathed almost one million dollars to the Baptist Social Union of Boston, and that money was used to build Ford Hall, the meeting place of the Ford Hall Forum, which still exists. In leaving money to the Forum, Ford said that the Social Union and the nation should foster closer personal relations between Christian businessman and the workingman because of the latter's "religious indifference, his feverish unrest and his belief that businessmen and capital are his enemies.”
Before Bellamy worked for the Youth’s Companion, Upham had promoted the use of the Flag in government schools. In 1891 and 1892, Upham coordinated a national celebration of Columbus focused on government schools and a flag ceremony with the as yet unwritten pledge. Upham wrote many drafts of a pledge and asked for comments from the magazine’s staff. He was never happy with his drafts and he asked Bellamy to take over.
The only well known flag salute at that time was Colonel Balch's salute, written in 1889. That salute went as follows: "We give our heads and our hearts to God and our country; one country, one language, one Flag." During the speel, the youngsters would point at their heads, their heart and then at the flag. Thus, Balch’s chant ended with a straight arm pointing at the flag. Balch had first used his pledge on Flag Day, June 14th, in his free kindergarten for New York City's poor and immigrants where he served as a principal. It seems to have become a daily salute in the classroom for all of his students.
Bellamy and Upham wanted a better pledge.
When Bellamy finished writing the pledge in August, 1892, he showed it to Upham. The pledge still did not have a salute. Upham came to attention, snapped his heels together and chanted, "I pledge allegiance to my flag," and he stretched out his right arm and hand with palm up while he recited the rest of the pledge.
Later, the first program for the pledge stated: “At a signal from the Principal the pupils, in ordered ranks, hands to the side, face the Flag. Another signal is given; every pupil give the Flag the military salute - right hand lifted, palm downward, to a line with the forehead and close to it. Standing thus, all repeat together, slowly: "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands; one Nation, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all." At the words, "to my Flag," the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upward, towards the Flag, and remains in this gesture till the end of the affirmation.; whereupon all hands immediately drop to the side.
Because of Bellamy’s military socialism and his addition of the military salute, the pledge’s salute evolved into the Nazi-style salute.
Government schools teach that the pledge was created to sell flags to schools and Francis Bellamy is described as an advertising pioneer. That is a whitewashed piece of the whole story. A better description is that Bellamy was a propaganda pioneer, comparable to Leni Riefenstahl.
Germans learned bad American behavior via old films, via WWI, and via the widespread use of the straight-arm salute by German-American groups (including the German American Bund) in the USA, that led to its adoption later by the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nazi Party). http://rexcurry.net/pledgebund.html
Bellamy believed that government schools with pledges and flags were needed to brainwash children to embrace nationalism, militarism, and socialism.
Bellamy wanted the government to takeover everything and impose the military’s “efficiency,” as he said. It is the origin of the modern military-socialist complex.
Bellamy wanted a flag over every school because he wanted to nationalize and militarize everything, including all schools, and eliminate all of the better alternatives. During Bellamy’s time the government was taking over education.
Bellamy wanted government schools to ape the military. Government schools were intended to create an “industrial army” (another Bellamy phrase, and the word “army” was not metaphorical) and to help nationalize everything else.
That is one of many reasons why Francis Bellamy and his also-famous cousin Edward Bellamy are known as the "American Hitlers" and as the first "American Nazis."
Germany and the entire world is owed an apology for the horrid influence that government had inside the U.S. in promoting socialized schools, military socialism within government schools, the creation of industrial armies, and daily robotic pledges of allegiance in military formation with the infamous straight-arm salute.