FLAGGENKUNDE GROUP recognize Vexillologist
Dr. Rex Curry's work
during their concessions of their defeat in scholarly debate challenges. < LINK TO DR. CURRY'S VICTORY
Vexillologist Dr. Rex Curry =>
Amazing recent discoveries have occurred in Vexillology and those discoveries
have been discussed by members of the North American Vexillological Association,
a well-known group in the field of vexillology (the study of flags).
Dr. Rex Curry's historical discoveries have been recognized by the North
American Vexillological Association (NAVA), by Flags Of The World Group
(FOTW), by Flaggenkunde and members of other vexillological groups. The
acknowledgment occurred when the president of the group conceded defeat
in a scholarly debate challenge about Dr. Curry's news-making work. http://rexcurry.net/north-american-vexillological-association-nava.html
The groups became familiar with Dr. Curry's famous revelation
that the USA's early pledge of allegiance to the flag (1892) used a straight-arm
salute and it was the source of the salute of the monstrous National Socialist
German Workers' Party. Dr. Curry (author of "Pledge of Allegiance Secrets")
helped to establish that it was not an ancient Roman salute, and that
the "ancient Roman salute" is a modern myth that grew during and after
the lives of Edward Bellamy (1850-1898) and Francis Bellamy (1855-1931).
Group members also became familiar with Dr. Curry's discovery
that the German flag and its swastika was used sometimes to represent
overlapping "S" letters in alphabetic symbolism for "socialism" under
the National Socialist German Workers' Party. http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
Dr. Curry is being promoted as a speaker for the official annual
convention of the North American Vexillological Association and for the
Internationaler Flaggenkundekongress (Internationalen Vexillologischen
Kongress) (or International Flag Congress). Dr. Curry (the "Libertarian
Lawyer") would address the topic of ominous parallels and commonalities
in the flag rituals and histories of the USA and Germany and other countries.
The North American Vexillological Association has invited the
submission of articles about Dr. Rex Curry's work, to be considered for
publication in either its quarterly newsletter, NAVA News, or to its annual
journal, Raven. NAVA is non-partisan organization that publishes original
research that advances knowledge of vexillology and related subjects.
Vexillologists from around the world have gathered together every
two years since 1965 to attend International Congresses of Vexillology.
Beginning in 1969, the Congresses have been sponsored by the Fédération
internationale des associations vexillologiques (FIAV). The 22nd International
Congress of Vexillology will be held August 5-11, 2007 in Berlin, Germany,
hosted by German Flag-Studies Society ( Deutsche Gesellschaft für
Flaggenkunde e.V.) The events are attended by members of many flag
associations, including: North American Vexillological Association (NAVA)
and the Flags Of The World Group (FOTW) and Flaggenkunde.
Amazon.com is following policy recommendations that are advocated
by Dr. Rex Curry. Amazon's web site deletes and discourages use of the common
4-letter shorthand n-word for "National Socialist German Workers' Party"
within Amazon's reviews, product information, tags and other uses.
By fighting the shorthand term, Amazon encourages customers to learn and
to use the actual accurate name of the monstrous group: National Socialist
German Workers' Party (NSGWP). http://rexcurry.net/amazon-com-book-reviews-tags-discussions.html
For a long time, Dr. Curry has exposed widespread ignorance in the
media and in the general public about what the 4-letter abbreviation abbreviates.
That etymological ignorance has grown through overuse of the hackneyed
shorthand term in print and in government schools (socialist schools).
Dr. Curry has advocated that the shorthand term should be avoided, unless
it is used in conjunction with the full actual name of the Party. Amazon
is helping Dr. Curry to reverse the ignorant habit within the media and
More support for Dr. Curry's work also comes from the Oxford English
Dictionary (OED). http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-oxford-english-dictionary.html
Dr. Curry's work has been recognized in the vexillological group Flags
Of The World (FOTW) http://rexcurry.net/fotw-flags-of-the-world-vexillology.html
Dr. Curry's news-making work is discussed on Odeo Radio at http://odeo.com/audio/1747108/view
And also on Radio Indymedia at http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/10827.php
And also covered at Opinion Editorials at http://www.opinioneditorials.com/writer.php?id=rcurry
With more at OpinionEditorials at http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/rcurry_20050826.html
The vexillologist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets") has
gained a lot of interest from NAVA members regarding Dr. Curry's discovery
that the flag used by the National Socialist German Workers' Party (the
swastika flag) was altered to incorporate alphabetic symbolism. The swastika,
although it was an ancient symbol, was used sometimes by the National
Socialist German Workers Party to represent overlapping "S" letters for
their "socialism." Dr. Curry changed the way that people think about
the swastika. The same symbolism is shown in the bizarre signature of
the leader of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, which he altered
to use the same stylized "S" letter for "socialist"; He turned the symbol
45 degrees to the horizontal and oriented it in the S direction; and similar
alphabetic symbolism was used for the "SS" Division and similar alphabetic
symbolism still shows on Volkswagens.
The flag salute under German National Socialists originated from
the USA's early Pledge of Allegiance. The original pledge began with
a military salute that then stretched out toward the flag. In actual
use, the second part of the gesture was performed with a straight arm
and palm down by disinterested children perfunctorily performing the forced
ritual chanting by extending the initial military salute, as shown by
Professor Curry. Due to the way that both gestures were used sequentially
in the pledge, the military salute led to the hard, stylized salute of
the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSGWP). The NSGWP salute
is an extended military salute via the USA's pledge.
The salute was not an ancient Roman salute, and the "ancient Roman
salute" is a myth. The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) listings for
the phrase "Roman salute" support Dr. Curry's discoveries. The Roman myth
grew in many ways, including the use of the USA's pledge salute in early
movies showing fictional Roman scenes. The myth is still repeated in efforts
to cover-up Dr. Curry's discoveries.
The straight-arm salute in the USA pre-dated the German National
Socialist salute by 30 years and was created by Francis Bellamy (author
of the "Pledge of Allegiance"). Francis Bellamy and Edward Bellamy (author
of the novel "Looking Backward") and Charles Bellamy (author of "A Moment
of Madness") and Frederick Bellamy (who introduced Edward to socialistic
"Fourierism") were socialists. Edward, Charles and Frederick were brothers,
and Francis was their cousin. Francis and Edward were both self-proclaimed
National Socialists and they supported the "Nationalism" movement in the
USA, the "Nationalist" magazine, and the "Nationalist Educational Association."
They wanted to nationalize everything and they wanted all of society
to ape the military and they touted "military socialism" and the "industrial
army." Edward's book was an international bestseller, translated into
every major language (including Russian, German and Chinese) and he inspired
the "Nationalist Party" (in the USA) and their dogma influenced socialists
worldwide via "Nationalist Clubs."
The Bellamys and the pledge inspired socialists worldwide, and
in the places of the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was
a part): 62 million slaughtered under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics;
49 million slaughtered under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21 million
slaughtered under the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
The Bellamys promoted a government takeover of schools, the placement
of flags at the schools, and robotic chanting of the pledge to the flag
with the old notorious gesture. When the government granted their wish,
the government schools imposed segregation by law and taught racism as official
government policy. The schools mandated the robotic chanting of the pledge
with the straight-arm salute and persecuted and expelled children who would
not comply, arrested parents, and even took children from parents on allegations
of "unfit parenting."
The USA still follows similar anti libertarian policies promoted
by the Bellamys. Many socialist Bellamy policies caused the USA's big,
expensive and oppressive government and its growing police-state. The
government still owns and operates schools, including the same schools
that imposed segregation by law and taught racism as official government
policy. Flags are usually in front of the schools and in every classroom.
The Pledge to the flag still exists along with laws mandating that teachers
lead the robotic pledge chanting to the flag every day for twelve years
of each child's life (though the salute was altered). The U.S. practice
of imposing segregation by law in government schools and teaching racism
as official policy even outlasted the National Socialist German Workers'
Party by over 15 years. After segregation in government's schools ended,
the Bellamy legacy caused more police-state racism of forced busing that
destroyed communities and neighborhoods and deepened hostilities. Those
schools still exist. Infants are given social security numbers that track
and tax them for life. Government schools demand the numbers for enrollment.
The pledge and the flag have become examples of how dangerous government
schools are (and how dangerous government is in general). One cynic quipped:
Governments are criminal gangs that have flags. Another one quipped: remove
the pledge from the flag, remove flags from schools, and remove schools
The North American Vexillological Association membership maintains
a discussion group where Dr. Curry's work has been raised as the topic
of discussion without dispute among NAVA members in the group.
Before the formal public debate was scheduled, many members of
the group took a closer look at Dr. Curry's work. Many members realized
that for most of their lives, they had simply believed common myths about
the topics and that they had no actual evidence to support their myths,
and no evidence that disputed Dr. Curry's new revelations debunking those
The website that archives the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry
also maintains a standing debate challenge for the spokesmen of groups
like the North American Vexillological Assocation, Flags of the World,
and the Flaggenkunde group. The standing debate challenge exists so that
group members cannot claim that they have no memory of their debate losses
concerning Dr. Curry's work. The spokesmen for the groups can attempt
to reverse the defeats by accepting the standing debate challenge in the
future, should they gain the courage to do so. Dr. Curry's victory does
not leave the groups' spokesmen without the opportunity for a re-match.
A fan sent the following info-
Gus Tracchia, the Moderator of the discussion group for the North
American Vexillological Association ( NAVA ) a yahoo group known as "navaflags"
allows posts that contain wildly inaccurate, derogatory information. On
the other hand, Gus tries to prevent flag members from seeing posts that
state: "New graphic art entitled 'The Red Flags of Socialism' is being
publicly displayed at http://rexcurry.net/north-american-vexillological-association-nava.html
" Gus claims that the quoted message is inappropriate because it
"contains overtly political material, which does not belong here." Gus'
comment makes no sense because, of course, nothing about flags would be
posted at the flag group in view of the fact that all flags are overtly
political. Flags represent governments and dogmas. How dense can the moderator
of a flag group be? Gus' reasoning is inconsistent with other posts that
Gus allows. Gus posts overtly political messages that Gus favors and he deletes
the political messages that he disfavors.
Nevertheless, in the same message, Gus concedes the historical work
of Dr. Rex Curry and states that NAVA as an organization does not dispute
Dr. Curry's historical discoveries.
Finally, Gus said that he thinks that some comments about NAVA are
misleading on this web page. Gus did not have the guts to specify any
comments, thus, perhaps Gus means that NAVA is not a "well-known group in
the field of vexillology" (one of the comments about NAVA on this page)
and perhaps Gus is saying that some NAVA members are ignorant of the history
of the Pledge of Allegiance, the early salute etc. (this web page asserted
that NAVA members were not so ignorant). Although Gus implies that some
NAVA members are ignorant, there are many NAVA members who are NOT ignorant
because they have reviewed and enjoyed Dr. Rex Curry's work. Let's
all encourage Gus, the NAVA moderator, to review the work, too.
It is also amazing that Gus, the NAVA group moderator is unaware
of the debate challenge victories of Dr. Rex Curry over the presidents
of the flag groups. Gus is an example of why (even though Gus might not
be able to read?) the following has been publicly posted since Dr. Curry's
original victory (to help inform people such as Gus): The website that
archives the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry also maintains a standing
debate challenge for the spokesmen of groups like the North American Vexillological
Assocation, Flags of the World, and the Flaggenkunde group. The standing
debate challenge exists so that group members cannot claim that they
have no memory of their debate losses concerning Dr. Curry's work. The
spokesmen for the groups can attempt to reverse the defeats by accepting
the standing debate challenge in the future, should they gain the courage
to do so. Dr. Curry's victory does not leave the groups' spokesmen without
the opportunity for a re-match.
Please encourage Gus to face reality and either fish or cut bait.
There is no reason to remain ignorant, nor any reason to feign
ignorance in a vain effort to save face for any flag group or its members.
One of the stupider members of Flags Of The World (FOTW) is André
Coutanche the listmaster for the group's mailing list, which is a yahoo
group known as "flags." Anyone who is thinking about joining a flag
group should view Coutanche's group with considerable misgivings. André
posts wild exaggerations which remove "André Coutanche" from any
serious consideration. André Coutanche's postings on FOTW_Politics
and elsewhere show him to be totally incapable of any "scholarly debates"
which is fortunate because he is not the president of the group (who conceded
Dr. Rex Curry's work without debate). Even Coutanche does not have the
guts to appear in a controlled professional moderated debate on the historical
discoveries, because that would require Coutanche to actually present evidence,
instead of mouthing off. The best that Coutanche can do is post childish
off-topic insults. If Coutanche ever finds the intellectual wherewithal
to actually cite any facts, then all real vexillologists would be well advised
to follow the suggestion that they limit themselves to checking if any "fact"
cited by Coutanche actually exists. In a recent post, Coutanche openly
questioned Dr. Rex Curry's work (link here
and whether an article existed in the Washington Post Newspaper from December
12, 1920, on page 4 with the headline: "Blue Square, White Field, Red
Swastika, League Army's Flag." Coutanche thus demonstrated to the
world his penchant for brainlessly mouthing-off, and his inability to do
even the slightest research of actually reviewing a Washington Post article
about which Coutanche babbles.
Coutanche (remember that Coutanche is the listmaster / moderator
of the group) was then publicly humiliated in his own group when another
group member, Ned Smith of St. James, NY (ehlsmith), confirmed Dr.
Rex Curry's work (link here
) and performed
the research that Coutanche did not do and then Ned Smith added: "The
New York Times issue of Dec 12 1920 (page 2) also confirms this flag, based
on an Associated Press report of 9 Dec from Warsaw. The report gives a
little better description, but still does not answer the question about
the swastika's orientation. the relevant part: 'The [League] army's flag
will be a blue square with a white field in the left hand corner, bearing
a red swastika in the centre.' The Post headline made it sound as if the
flag was white, with a blue canton, but the Times report, if accurate,
makes it blue, with a white canton."