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Sniffing Out The Truth About Drug Dogs: An Interview With Rex Curry
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By Stephen Young
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How good are drug dogs at their jobs? Attorney Rex Curry has been
looking at that question for years.
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Back in 2003, Curry argued a case in Florida challenging the
reliability of a police drug dog. The dog had signalled drugs on
Curry's client, but Curry showed that the dog didn't have adequate
training, and if it did, police should have kept records proving
that the dog was reliable for a decent wrap-up of the case, check
this news story - http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1194/a04.html
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Curry's argument prevailed, and the charges were thrown out. Police
appealed, so far unsuccessfully. But the Attorney General of Florida
is trying to get the U.S. Supreme Court to take the case. Curry has
archived the court documents at his website -
http://rexcurry.net/drugdogsmain.html - which also contains other
details about drug dogs.
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DrugSense Weekly interviewed Curry recently about the where the case
is going, and drug-sniffing dogs in general.
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DSW: What is the status of the Florida v. Matheson case you detail at
your site? Is the case headed for the U.S. Supreme Court?
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Rex Curry: You are in luck because you are one of the first to learn
that the court has asked for a response (this is also visible from
the court's docket entry) and I have been told the court asked for
transcripts. This is peaking interest in the case. Of course, it is
already AT the Supreme Court, the only question is whether the Court
will "bite" at the dog case and decide to hear oral arguments and
issue a written opinion.
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DSW: How did you get involved with that case?
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| Curry: | I developed the entire strategy from the beginning and argued |
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the original motion to suppress evidence and filed the original appeal
that started the trek to the U.S. Supreme Court. The victim of the
drug dog talked with me last night about the case.
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DSW: It seems from information at your website that drug-sniffing
dog training, quality and testing varies widely. Is that correct?
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| Curry: | Correct. Drug-sniffing dog training, quality and testing varies |
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widely.
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DSW: How wide is the variation - for example, what is the success
rate of the best dogs vs. the success rate of the worst dogs? How
wide is the variation in the way success is defined in dog training
programs?
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| Curry: | It is difficult to measure or quantify the width of the |
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variation. That is one reason why law enforcement does not desire to
keep records about their dogs. It prevents attorneys from examining the
issue. In a sense, one of the ideas in the court case is "If you law
enforcement officers will not keep records, then we judges will make
your lack of records YOUR problem when we judges evaluate the dogs in a
motion to suppress evidence."
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DSW: I've read that dogs are most competent when they've trained on,
at most, five different drug scents, and that attempts to train them
on a higher number of scents just confuses dogs. Does that sound
accurate? If so, does this play into court cases? For example, can you
as an attorney find out what specific drugs the dogs were trained to
detect?
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| Curry: | Well, five is not a magic number. And your question points up |
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the problem: Every dog is different. Each must be evaluated
individually and repeatedly, with records that are maintained to enable
evaluation and to note changes. For example, dogs age and dogs become
ill. That and other changes can cause a good dog to go bad at any
time. All of that plays into court cases and the reluctance of law
enforcement to keep records on dog performance. Usually an attorney can
find out what specific drugs the dogs were trained to detect, but
believe it or not, even those types of records can be difficult to
acquire. Once acquired, the records can be vague about the actual
training procedures and performance.
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DSW: I'm told (ahem) that the scent of marijuana can vary widely
between different strains. Does this present a problem for the dog, or
is there some basic component of cannabis that they will always
recognize if they are competently trained?
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| Curry: | The state of science is not even able to answer your question |
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clearly at this time in the sense that scientists are not certain what
the dog is smelling as compared with what you or I smell. For example,
dogs are sometimes trained using "pseudo" drugs that are not actual
drugs. Well, what if the dog is smelling something on pseudo drugs
that is NOT always an illegal smell? What if the dog alerts to that
smell, which is NOT an illegal component of the smell? That is a
difficult question to answer, but could be aided with record keeping of
the dog's performance in the field or "on the street." The world's
oldest living medical marijuana patient also pointed out a problem with
drug dogs. He said "I was in the airport recently and a dog sniffed my
bag and walked away. I called to the handler and asked if the dog was
trained for bombs or drugs, and the handler said 'for drugs.' So I
told him to bring the dog back because I had marijuana in my bag." His
medicine was in a bottle with a good cap, which can prevent air-flow,
meaning that it can eliminate or reduce any actual particles in the air
that the dog would smell.
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DSW: Given the problems with drug dogs explored at your website, why
do you think they are so popular with police departments and municipal
government?
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| Curry: | Oh that is easy. You have to remember that there is a strong |
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incentive for law enforcement not to CARE whether the dogs are
accurate. The dogs can simply be props for lies, in that the dogs are
there to overcome refusals to consent to search, and the dog provides
law enforcement officers (LEOs) with the ability to say that an alert
occurred even if there was no alert. And here is another angle: some
LEOs do not want a "drug dog," they want a "car dog," in that they want
a dog that when shown a car will alert, as if to say "yes that is a
car." For some LEOs the goal is to search whenever the LEO desires,
period. The dog is simply a ruse to do so. That is why the dogs are
so popular. Do not be confused with the idea that the idea that there
are "problems with drug dogs." For some LEOs those are not problems at
all. And again, that is why some LEOs have no interest in maintaining
records about their dogs.
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Stephen Young is an editor with DrugSense Weekly. A new edition of
his book Maximizing Harm is scheduled for release next year.
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